Moran: I asked this question earlier and I have some notes on it, but just so readers can hear it in your own words. You don't see a lot of tears at a PASS event. For the readers, Wayne Snyder was doing an introduction for Kevin and got a little bit emotional and was crying. I did go up to Wayne after and told him he was a big sissy for crying, and then I did get a little teary-eyed too. How did that make you feel?
Kline: You know, I was so honored, and I was really shocked and surprised. But, I was just so honored—so deeply honored. Very touched, and quite choked up myself. I'm very humbled by it.
Moran: You've probably had a chance to travel a good bit with PASS. What was the one place that you had the opportunity to go to that you enjoyed the most?
Kline: There's not a lot of perks to being a board member, but the one perk for me that was really neat was that we were able to go to different places that PASS paid for us as board members to go to. One of the places that was just magical was Dubrovnik, Croatia. Just a beautiful city built right on the Adriatic Sea. Beautiful Mediterranean landscapes, gorgeous blue sea, and really really a magical place. It's definitely a place I hope to go back to someday and see again.
There are other places that are also wonderful that I've been able to go to because of PASS, but Dubrovnik is definitely at the top of the list.
Moran: Is there anything you want to share with the community that I haven't asked you yet?
Kline: Yeah there is one thing. I'd like to make a call to action to the community: So much of the time, we're just focused on getting our work done, going home, watching some TV, and going to bed. And, getting back up and doing it all over again. I would encourage any reader and listener to think about, maybe you can give back a little bit. And the difference between a lifetime of achievement and a lifetime of just doing what you needed to do, I think in a lot of cases is simply watching a little less TV, and spending a little more time trying to help others.
Think about how much TV the average person watches a week, and how much the average person just doesn't really care about. If they could just cut out one or two of those a week, they would be giving back in a substantial way to the community. So I would encourage everyone—it doesn't have to be PASS even—to pick what you really care about and give back to that, and you will make the world a much better place.
Moran: That's good advice. What you just shared about a call to action sparked this question. It's a little weird interviewing you as an outgoing board member as a member of the press when I'm an ingoing board member. I think this year PASS published the number of people who voted, which I'm not sure that PASS did in the past.
Kline: No, not that I'm aware of.
Moran: I was surprised, myself, at what I thought was the relatively low number of people who actually voted. I had always assumed the numbers were pretty high. You probably know, but it was 530 or something like that. What are your thoughts on the number of people who vote on PASS?
Kline: I hate to be harsh, but I think it's pretty pathetic, really. In a membership of between 30 and 40 thousand people, we had 500 people vote? And I know that many people don't think that this is an organization that has an electoral form of governance, but really, I wish people would care a little bit more. If, as a member of PASS, the only thing you do this year is to vote, I think you will have contributed in a significant way, really. I'd love to see that number with a 0 behind it. Let's get at least 16 or 20 percent of the membership voting.
Moran: You probably don't even need to miss a whole TV show to vote.
Kline: Exactly, it just takes moments.
Moran: Well Kevin, I know you're busy this week. I've known you for a long time. On a personal level and on behalf of the community, I want to say thanks for everything you've done.
Kline: Thank you Brian. It's been my pleasure. Really appreciate it.